Thats exacly how qui gons brain works, single minded focus, his way or the high way, oh a possably proficised child, he is fated to be a jedi, so he is mine now, what I already got a padaean, yeah whatever, oh a butterfly
For all his stay in there present/here and now, he is compleatly unable to see consequences and really be in the momemt instead of his very limited view of it.
I disagree, i feel like a positive resolution no matter what has more danger potential then showing how harmful behavior is realistically lead to its often pretty bleak conclusion. Acting like abuse does no harm buy a mirable happy end, thats way more enabeling, then driving home, why what he did was wrong and what harm it causes, like the first litetally excuses it while the later takes aeay all excuses
Cozy fluff has its place but then qui gon has to be an entirely different character and fee and xanatos would be around for the happy family
I like fix it, but I require realistic consequences and real solutions. Like redeeming qui gon needs him to go to therapy, appologise, and show slow but steady change instead of just, oh one conflict magically fixed it and he should be just forgiven, no harm done.
While depressing showing the realistic consequences, having the trauma adressed and in case of wui gon, the partnership broken up has a therapeutic effect of me, cause I often feel like screaming into a void when it comes to abuse, of stories depicting really desturbingly toxic behavior, but acting like it deas not impact anyone and is alright.
Obi wan could have died on melida/daan, he is scared for life in all ways from his experiences there, still qui gon gets to be treated like he was a good jedi and master...
A fix it needs to feel earned in my eyes
Yeah, I get you, no worries, it is really really taxing and I also only engage with the topic, when I feel up to it. It is really raw and delicate.
I might have miswrote it. I am too wordy and tangled up for this. It's not that I don't agree with showing truthfully how toxic or otherwise damaging actions/relationships/events have consequences in basically all people involved. Or simply that actions have consequences, things happen and we know it realistically. Just how children's books can show and explain real life consequences, being a way to teach morality and ethics in one way or another (even if a story about a little bear that ate too many sweets, hurt their teeth and had to go to the dentist might not have much in way of ethics... unless the little bear tried to lie to their mama or papa bear to his own detriment?), other works should be able to bring up much more complicated or otherwise relevant topics. Showing them truthfully is much better than being dismissive of the problem or hand-weavy about the solution (instant healing or 180 turn on behaviour just like that, maybe after one conversation? Unbelievable to me). It at least allowed for some exploration of topics we might not have context.
I myself am somewhat catching myself on self-reflection that only in literary context I see how some of my actions weren't the best, my relationships damaged and so on. All the while those are often actions or attitudes I would criticise in character.
What I meant more in fact was - that often I feel about some turns of events in the story strongly enough to wish for "no fix-it necessary AU". Likely all the while missing the point of the problematic topic being explored, because I read while emotionally compromised for such story. Some post Rako Hardeen stories are just that kind of heartbreak. Do I understand all parties involved? Somewhat. But I also know that I am too invested in the fluff-filled life centred around one character or another and in most Star Wars-related reads I am strictly in Obi-Wan's camp and missing most empathy for some of the others. (Writing it like this I see my issue better. I am terribly low on empathy for multiple people/characters at once it seems. Huh, the more you know...)
I also wouldn't like Qui Gin's redemption (or any other fix-it) without all mentioned parts. Trust is easily broken and lost, to rebuild it... Yes. Some things didn't come about only because of Qui Gon's own attitude - favouritism and silent non-acted-upon disapproval come to mind... There was bound to be some inside process to discipline a member of the Order, always a question if they would have enough ground to start such a disciplinary action, it would go through the Council or be fully required of Jinn to be acted upon).
No problem ^^, thats a really good way of describing it! Like with a dentist, just that while most kids tales get a happy end, at least nowerdays, in adult stories, and old fairy tales, sometimes there also is not a happy end and that can also be valuable to show, that some actions, some mistakes you can not come back from. It should not be always, never always, but both how to defeat the dragon and dont do that or else doom stories have valuable lessons to teach and deserve their spaces.
But I also agree, that now and then, a never needed to be fixed one is really nice to, I am picky about those, as always, but I do love a good one of those!
Both of the other types need one being in the right state if mind for it and can be even harmful if one is to frayed and plain needs comfort. If everything hurts, plain and simple fluff and comfort is best.
In star wars, my favorite flavor for it is is ahsoka and clone hijinks ^^ But I also love what if the liniage where a happy family with xanatos. Fee, dooku and absolut no melidaan
I have a very similar problem with batman, gosh I dispise that guy, (mainly cause of an obi wan analogous chara) But I love the flavor of batfamily messes with outsiders lacking context( justice league or kindnappers) thats my its all funny and fluff thing...
I know very well why beside horror and let it have propper consequences ffs my most consumed media is nostalgic kids stuff.
Sometimes one really really needs that soothing everything will be good balm when one is so raw that everything else just burns
Reading is an amazing tool to learn switching perspectives, question our assumptions and learn empathy!
Yeah, we need time and self reflection to really be able to tell, when maybe, our anger was not as justified, or we might have overteacted, cause we lacked context and asigned an intention that was not there. Thats pretty normal that it is easyer to tell that after reading something similar but with more context. No one is perfect and empathy needs understanding, and understanding needs expoisior. It is actually a show of good empathy that you are able to review your actions in a different light, once you got added context. One cant always immediately translate what one learned in ones actions, but it still helps, especially with apologising.
It is also pretty common one is drawen to one characters perspective more, then to others and obi wan just makes so much more sense then ani for example after the hardeen ark. With the fact you even question your perception and try to sympathise with everyone involved already has you ahad of many, that never question the first or easyiest emotional impuls!
Overall, thanks heavens Ao3 has fikters, so one can always adjuste the read to what one can stomach at the time
I can't really continue with too long responses, because they start to seriously meander, just know that you made me smile all the more with your kind words.
I value well tagged fics above anything. Before I ended up on AO3 (sometime in early 2021 I think, but for the longest time I didn't make an account, lying to myself that bookmarking 300+ works, series or lists of works with specific tag in internet browser is a good solution) I read on fanfiction.net and searching for something was a mess. At the time I had close to none self restraint of the "I don't like it, I won't read it anymore, close forever" type do things got often chucked into bookmarks to disappear into the void. For the life of me can't remember what I was mostly reading about back then, but before that I was mostly reading reincarnation or simply adventure romance Chinese or Korean novels finding translations via novelupdates and that was a slightly lesser mess, but still awful experience. In the meantime I learned how data bases are actually constructed and how to use SQL so the technical understanding of the issue gives me more patience, but still AO3 makes me much happier. Simply because I can almost not acknowledge existence of pairings or tags that are plainly too "icky" for my brain to end up reading about it anymore. Like... Palpatine/(anyone I like) is a thing of nightmares and there was some body horror involved so... Yeah eyes and brain to bleach.
All good, know the struggle and am very verbose, starting way to many topics etc, it gets a lot
Glad I could make you smile, now I did something useful this day ^^
Got tagging really is everything, sadly I often am to curious for my own good, I often end up reading stuff, cause a tag was so absurd or repulsive, I needed to know.... There could not be enough brain bleach in the world for what I have read at this point, but ao3 allowed me too controll when I come across the bad, very valuable.
Well, I can't say that there aren't moments where curiosity wins over, just... Some things can be questionable but still be read because damn if I give up, however there are things are just no-nos. It's just difficult to point out some of them. Like, there are some very questionable tags when mixed up, but on their own could work out well enough... I might have wanted to point some out but realised we are basically chatting under fic with General Audience classification so... Yeah. 🤦♀️ Discretion on the details seems prudent.
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